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shady_knife · Jun 23, 2005, 12:13 PM // 12:13

koreans are fanatical gamers, its common knowledge,they have pay tv channels which show replays of games, they have one of the highest broabband connections per house in the major cites world wide im sure, and they are ****in pro at it, they play there games all day every day. iv just started doing tombs and its a bitch, i need to get a into a serious guild with ts or vent so i can do hoh and do it well. any guilds out there who do hoh alot that get results and that are recruiting drop me a line, would be glad to join ^^

Syno · Jun 23, 2005, 12:21 PM // 12:21

Like they said earlier, join a guild. If you're in a decent one with enough people, you can always get a good group together quite quickly.

A free web-based wargame you can play from anywhere!

Santanus_Perro · Jun 23, 2005, 12:37 PM // 12:37

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Originally Posted by Shadowdaemon

i can tell people are playing less lately just from my guild members, it used to be about 30 of the 50 were on at all times, lately its more like 5-10 of em

also, koreans arent any better than anyone else, you people are just racists

I have not seen one racist comment. Not one. Just because someone mentions the Koreans, and the fact it is so tough to beat them has nothing to do with racism. Before you start calling out others on issues of race, creed, color, nationality etc. you better make [email protected] sure you know what the he11 you are talking about! Sorry to flame all, but it is downright rude for someone to call others racists without any merit.

Akilles · Jun 23, 2005, 12:37 PM // 12:37

the popular guild wars will come back, all games have a shining start then you love it so you play it to death then you dont wanna look at it. You play other stuff then go back and play the game you like the most. BF2 just came out and ppl have waited a long time for that (does anyone else play the song from TOP GUN "highway to the danger zone" when you fly off the aircraft carrier?

though i crash in 30 sec.

A Free on-line game will always come back, i am sure this happened with EQ and WoW.

wasteland · Jun 23, 2005, 01:02 PM // 13:02

One factor may be the change in the European Districts. A lot of Europe based English speaking players chose the US districts at launch and it is possible a large number have moved from the US districts to the European ones since the change was made.

It is also natural for the numbers playing a game to drop off after the first two months and I suspect we’ll see some more drop off over the next month followed by a further drop off when the next big MMORPG comes on line (D&D online I think is the next one).

Play will also be much more evenly distributed across the map as well. In the first weeks a lot of players will have progressed at a similar rate as they completed the missions before Ascending. This will now have evened out as the different playing pace takes effect.

Overall, in terms of long term survivability nothing to get worried about yet. The key is how many people leave to go to other MMORPGS when released and how many come back for the first expansion. And we won’t know that until next year.

Bgnome · Jun 23, 2005, 01:09 PM // 13:09

moved to riverside.

please refrain from region bashing. kthxbye

Swarnt Brightstar · Jun 23, 2005, 01:20 PM // 13:20

Quite frankly Bill Gates is hiring asian people to work in his company over americans. Do you want to know why! because the americans-yes I'm american-are LAZY(also cause we dont have a good enough education)-yes I am-Koreans have always been blue-just a hunch-since the korean war (I think it's the vietnam cant remember been playin to much GW)so they worked alot harder than us. Same thing when teh mahogany-americans were free. they worked one helluva lot harder than we did.

Neonin · Jun 23, 2005, 01:25 PM // 13:25

Ignoring all other issues, I'd have to say one of the reasons Europe doesn't win favour as much as America and Korea is that Europe is made up of multiple districts with multiple languages, and native Italians/French/Germans/Spanish tend to stick to their own regions. This means the large group of skilled players we have is split between the regions and often never the twain shall meet, whereas American and Korean skilled players all play in the same districts. This makes it more likely for them to meet up and team up. The language barrier, unfortunatly, segregates the European community.

suzumebachi · Jun 23, 2005, 01:29 PM // 13:29

anyways i've been to HoH about 6 times now (with my PvE character no less). came real close to winning a couple of times, only to get completely owned by AoE in the center. XD

it all depends on the group you've got. oh, and TS/Vent are completely overrated. they're right about "yanks" blaming other people, because that's all that ever freaking happens on TS:

"WHY AREN'T YOU HEALING ME BOO HOO WAHH WAHH"
"HEY STUPID ASSHOLE ATTACK MY GOD DAMN TARGETS WHEN I CALL THEM WHAT ARE YOU RETARDED?"
"OH MY GOD OH MY GOD OH MY GOD I'M OUT OF MANA OH **** OH SHIT OH LORD OH JESUS CHRIST OH GOD"

etc. in fact i refuse to play with groups that use TS/Vent anymore for this exact reason. the only thing they use it for is to bitch each other out.

r4yne · Jun 23, 2005, 01:37 PM // 13:37

All of europe should learn english then.

Numa Pompilius · Jun 23, 2005, 01:42 PM // 13:42

Hmm?

Of course there's fewer people playing, for several reasons.

Firstly, the beta players - and there's tons of them - are starting to tire now, having played GW for perhaps six months or so by now, ascended a bunch of times, and having unlocked everything there is to unlock. Those who got the game at release probably still haven't burned out on it.

Secondly, the lack of monthly fee actually makes it easier to stop playing. There's one less barrier.

Thirdly, and here's the biggie: summer's started. The number of players (and people coming to this site, or doing anything internet-related) will continue to drop, until they return in august-september. It's the same every summer, with online gaming going on the back burner.

Theus · Jun 23, 2005, 01:47 PM // 13:47

One factor that makes the game frustrating is trying to buy things from people ingame....I currently was just trying to buy a 19-35 hammer with +15% dmg while hp is above 50..only to have two people selling them for 150k.

...I could probably find one before I ever reached that ammount of money..

*Sigh* The economy of GuildWars reminds me of Ragnarok..

Saerden · Jun 23, 2005, 02:12 PM // 14:12

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Originally Posted by hassoon

Koreans per se are not smarter than us.They are much better educated,and much more focused.You won't likely see the korean PvP crowd screaming for instant gratification,IE no work gimme everything for nothing that will be the Amarican side.Also their technology broadband wise is far superior.

Hahahaha. Lazy = intelligent. The idiot walks. The lazy man wants instant gratification, and invents a car.

You do know that the worlds best school system is in finland? the soft, reasonable, no grind, left-wing mentality without pressure to be good, produced the best results worldwide. Japan with its nearly unbearable, close to suicide pressure "to be good" was close though.

*on topic: before the "update" i was sure that GW is dying, at least the competitive pvp part. Now everything can change for the better. The announced system still sounds like stupid and unnecessary grind, but it has given hope to the pvp players, and that is all that matters.

Kaylee Ann · Jun 23, 2005, 03:13 PM // 15:13

Wow, just wow..... This thread cracks me up. The uber leet technologically advanced cheating Koreans will kill us all!! LMAO...

Maybe if you all tried something besides "FORMING HOH GROUP, NEED 4 AIR ELEMS AND 3 MONKS!!!!" you wouldn't get your asses handed to you by the Koreans all the time.

Oh yeah, and the reason your 'effects' don't work is because the Koreans can do with 6 or 7 spells/skills per person whereas you schmucks can barely do with 8. Every one of them brings a rez, the monks actually use elites besides word and spell breaker, and they bring along tons of hex and condition removal.

But yeah, keep blaming it on everything under the sun. The truth and reality in the matter is you just suck, and are getting outplayed by the Koreans.

termite · Jun 23, 2005, 03:14 PM // 15:14

Yes, GW is indeed dying because the game gets boring after a week of play. From my own point of view the game gets boring once you've reached level 20 and beat the game. At this point I don't really feel like grinding for skills/items, or starting new characters because the quests are just plain boring and take up way too much time. I'd rather be out there playing PVP, but the problem is that I don't have all the skills unlocked so I can't make the builds that I want, which brings me back to the grinding point - something I do not want to do because it gets even more boring. I haven't played GW for two or three weeks now. Instead I'm playing BF2 and hoping that next week's patch will make it easy to unlock skills and upgrades. Otherwise I'm quitting the game for good. Right now I feel like I could have spent the $50 I paid for this game on something that would be more useful to me.

As for the racism in this post - Korea isn't a race. Asian is considered a race. I think the terms you guys are looking for are "prejudist/prejudice" and "stereotype".

primal98 · Jun 23, 2005, 03:20 PM // 15:20

Well the problem with teams(HoH in particular), is that it is TS/Vent or get the F***** OUT!!! I would love to play for the hell of it, but my mic refuses to work on this PC

But yes, I have noticed it has become a bit harder to get a group :/

~prime

Creston · Jun 23, 2005, 04:08 PM // 16:08

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Originally Posted by Zaxon

I have noticed over last few days to week less & less people around, if I had to make a guess % I would say 20-30% less people about.

I am based in Australia so yes my play time is usually USA bed time, but I have played since GW was release world wide, and that was like 2 months ago and just this last week ive noticed alot less people about.

I only have 1 assumption for why this is, Tombs mission, its VERY HARD to get a group that can survive the first round let alone get all the way through, and everyday you don't make it ELITE teams are getting better.

I was in a almost perfect group made it through all the challenges and was 1 challenge away from getting to HoH, soon as the map started and other team names poped up - we saw Sissy Boys as one of the oposition, first thought from everyone was they will win we will lose.

Well we didnt ever get to see em some asian group killed us real quick. Which was weird as we killed alloposition upto that point pretty fast and easy, and to be killed so fast in final challenge was so depressing.

SO unless you in a guild group who know each others strengths & weakness's and unless yoru team is perfectly setup ie (smite group - or shutdown group) you havent got a chance.

I have been trying to get to HoH from Tombs since week one of GW and never have made it, I have made 3 lvl 20's now my main now is a healing monk, and I do a real good job but still never have made it.

Thats why I think people are either leaving or playing far less, because you don't stand a chance in Tombs - I can't even begin to contemplate how hard HoH is if Tombs is so hard to get through.

Guild Wars needs a match making service. PUG groups and such should not have to face off against quality PvP guilds such as SB, n0, or any of the top Korean guilds. If you have fame 1, you should not have to fight someone with fame 8000, because odds are you're going to get slaughtered.

Hopefully Anet will wake up one day, and realise that while losing is pretty much guaranteed at some point in PvP, nobody wants to go up against a team that rapes them so bad they'll just lose all fun in playing. Let the top guilds play each other, and let the lower tiered people play the other lower tiered people.

Creston

Creston · Jun 23, 2005, 04:10 PM // 16:10

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Originally Posted by Sledge

I dunno.

Got on my new w/n in old ascholon and started out in district 36.

Perchance alot of people have began new chracters?

And my elementalist started out in a pretty high district also.

Never know, maybe everyone made new guys at the same time.

People operate under the assumption that because you are in district 47, this means that districts 1-46 are totally filled with people.
In fact, they are not. Simply jump from district to district in Ascalon City, and you'll see several dozen that have like 10 players in them.

Just because there are 50 Ascalon districts doesn't mean that there are 50.000 people in Ascalon.

Creston

salja Wachi · Jun 23, 2005, 04:13 PM // 16:13

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Originally Posted by Algren Cole

you can't honestly believe that....there are hacks for this game...whether or not they are publicly available I don't know.

sorry to disagree withj you.

in order to hack this game you need to hack Anet';s servers, because everything is stored there not on your comp.

i highly doubt there are any people hacking into GW's sservers.

that is the beauty of this game

Kaylee Ann · Jun 23, 2005, 04:38 PM // 16:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Creston

Guild Wars needs a match making service. PUG groups and such should not have to face off against quality PvP guilds such as SB, n0, or any of the top Korean guilds. If you have fame 1, you should not have to fight someone with fame 8000, because odds are you're going to get slaughtered.

Hopefully Anet will wake up one day, and realise that while losing is pretty much guaranteed at some point in PvP, nobody wants to go up against a team that rapes them so bad they'll just lose all fun in playing. Let the top guilds play each other, and let the lower tiered people play the other lower tiered people.

Creston

The game is based on teamwork, coordination, and working as a guild to win. Everyone you mentioned also PUGs, and still has no problem winning. The problem is you, and your ability to put together winning teams, not the games.

Jun 23, 2005, 01:09 PM // 13:09	#46
Bgnome Elite Guru Join Date: Feb 2005	moved to riverside. please refrain from region bashing. kthxbye __________________ [quote=Sausaletus Rex]...When you respond to a thread in [Q&A] make sure, and I mean damn sur

Jun 23, 2005, 12:13 PM // 12:13	#41
shady_knife Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Australia, Victoria Profession: R/E	koreans are fanatical gamers, its common knowledge,they have pay tv channels which show replays of games, they have one of the highest broabband connections per house in the major cites world wide im sure, and they are ****in pro at it, they play there games all day every day. iv just started doing tombs and its a bitch, i need to get a into a serious guild with ts or vent so i can do hoh and do it well. any guilds out there who do hoh alot that get results and that are recruiting drop me a line, would be glad to join ^^

Jun 23, 2005, 12:21 PM // 12:21	#42
Syno Academy Page Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Jacksonville, FL, USA Profession: N/Mo	Like they said earlier, join a guild. If you're in a decent one with enough people, you can always get a good group together quite quickly. A free web-based wargame you can play from anywhere!

Jun 23, 2005, 12:37 PM // 12:37	#44
Akilles Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005 Guild: Brothers of the Jade	the popular guild wars will come back, all games have a shining start then you love it so you play it to death then you dont wanna look at it. You play other stuff then go back and play the game you like the most. BF2 just came out and ppl have waited a long time for that (does anyone else play the song from TOP GUN "highway to the danger zone" when you fly off the aircraft carrier? though i crash in 30 sec. A Free on-line game will always come back, i am sure this happened with EQ and WoW.

Jun 23, 2005, 01:02 PM // 13:02	#45
wasteland Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Apr 2005 Profession: Me/Mo	One factor may be the change in the European Districts. A lot of Europe based English speaking players chose the US districts at launch and it is possible a large number have moved from the US districts to the European ones since the change was made. It is also natural for the numbers playing a game to drop off after the first two months and I suspect we’ll see some more drop off over the next month followed by a further drop off when the next big MMORPG comes on line (D&D online I think is the next one). Play will also be much more evenly distributed across the map as well. In the first weeks a lot of players will have progressed at a similar rate as they completed the missions before Ascending. This will now have evened out as the different playing pace takes effect. Overall, in terms of long term survivability nothing to get worried about yet. The key is how many people leave to go to other MMORPGS when released and how many come back for the first expansion. And we won’t know that until next year.

Jun 23, 2005, 01:20 PM // 13:20	#47
Swarnt Brightstar Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005 Location: Mongolia!... But sadly Florida Guild: Rulers of Mythology <ROM> Profession: R/Mo	Quite frankly Bill Gates is hiring asian people to work in his company over americans. Do you want to know why! because the americans-yes I'm american-are LAZY(also cause we dont have a good enough education)-yes I am-Koreans have always been blue-just a hunch-since the korean war (I think it's the vietnam cant remember been playin to much GW)so they worked alot harder than us. Same thing when teh mahogany-americans were free. they worked one helluva lot harder than we did.

Jun 23, 2005, 01:25 PM // 13:25	#48
Neonin Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Wolverhampton, UK Guild: Shattered Star Company	Ignoring all other issues, I'd have to say one of the reasons Europe doesn't win favour as much as America and Korea is that Europe is made up of multiple districts with multiple languages, and native Italians/French/Germans/Spanish tend to stick to their own regions. This means the large group of skilled players we have is split between the regions and often never the twain shall meet, whereas American and Korean skilled players all play in the same districts. This makes it more likely for them to meet up and team up. The language barrier, unfortunatly, segregates the European community.

Jun 23, 2005, 01:29 PM // 13:29	#49
suzumebachi Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2005 Location: New Mexico Guild: Mas Chingon [VATO] Profession: R/N	anyways i've been to HoH about 6 times now (with my PvE character no less). came real close to winning a couple of times, only to get completely owned by AoE in the center. XD it all depends on the group you've got. oh, and TS/Vent are completely overrated. they're right about "yanks" blaming other people, because that's all that ever freaking happens on TS: "WHY AREN'T YOU HEALING ME BOO HOO WAHH WAHH" "HEY STUPID ASSHOLE ATTACK MY GOD DAMN TARGETS WHEN I CALL THEM WHAT ARE YOU RETARDED?" "OH MY GOD OH MY GOD OH MY GOD I'M OUT OF MANA OH **** OH SHIT OH LORD OH JESUS CHRIST OH GOD" etc. in fact i refuse to play with groups that use TS/Vent anymore for this exact reason. the only thing they use it for is to bitch each other out.

Jun 23, 2005, 01:37 PM // 13:37	#50
r4yne Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Manchester - England Guild: Jagged Blade Profession: Me/Mo	All of europe should learn english then.

Jun 23, 2005, 01:42 PM // 13:42	#51
Numa Pompilius Grotto Attendant Join Date: May 2005 Location: At an Insit.. Intis... a house. Guild: Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF] Profession: W/Me	Hmm? Of course there's fewer people playing, for several reasons. Firstly, the beta players - and there's tons of them - are starting to tire now, having played GW for perhaps six months or so by now, ascended a bunch of times, and having unlocked everything there is to unlock. Those who got the game at release probably still haven't burned out on it. Secondly, the lack of monthly fee actually makes it easier to stop playing. There's one less barrier. Thirdly, and here's the biggie: summer's started. The number of players (and people coming to this site, or doing anything internet-related) will continue to drop, until they return in august-september. It's the same every summer, with online gaming going on the back burner.

Jun 23, 2005, 01:47 PM // 13:47	#52
Theus Jungle Guide Join Date: May 2005 Profession: W/Mo	One factor that makes the game frustrating is trying to buy things from people ingame....I currently was just trying to buy a 19-35 hammer with +15% dmg while hp is above 50..only to have two people selling them for 150k. ...I could probably find one before I ever reached that ammount of money.. Sigh The economy of GuildWars reminds me of Ragnarok..

Jun 23, 2005, 03:13 PM // 15:13	#54
Kaylee Ann Banned Join Date: May 2005	Wow, just wow..... This thread cracks me up. The uber leet technologically advanced cheating Koreans will kill us all!! LMAO... Maybe if you all tried something besides "FORMING HOH GROUP, NEED 4 AIR ELEMS AND 3 MONKS!!!!" you wouldn't get your asses handed to you by the Koreans all the time. Oh yeah, and the reason your 'effects' don't work is because the Koreans can do with 6 or 7 spells/skills per person whereas you schmucks can barely do with 8. Every one of them brings a rez, the monks actually use elites besides word and spell breaker, and they bring along tons of hex and condition removal. But yeah, keep blaming it on everything under the sun. The truth and reality in the matter is you just suck, and are getting outplayed by the Koreans.

Jun 23, 2005, 03:14 PM // 15:14	#55
termite Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: May 2005	Yes, GW is indeed dying because the game gets boring after a week of play. From my own point of view the game gets boring once you've reached level 20 and beat the game. At this point I don't really feel like grinding for skills/items, or starting new characters because the quests are just plain boring and take up way too much time. I'd rather be out there playing PVP, but the problem is that I don't have all the skills unlocked so I can't make the builds that I want, which brings me back to the grinding point - something I do not want to do because it gets even more boring. I haven't played GW for two or three weeks now. Instead I'm playing BF2 and hoping that next week's patch will make it easy to unlock skills and upgrades. Otherwise I'm quitting the game for good. Right now I feel like I could have spent the $50 I paid for this game on something that would be more useful to me. As for the racism in this post - Korea isn't a race. Asian is considered a race. I think the terms you guys are looking for are "prejudist/prejudice" and "stereotype".

Jun 23, 2005, 03:20 PM // 15:20	#56
primal98 Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Apr 2005	Well the problem with teams(HoH in particular), is that it is TS/Vent or get the F***** OUT!!! I would love to play for the hell of it, but my mic refuses to work on this PC But yes, I have noticed it has become a bit harder to get a group :/ ~prime